Tempers flared in downtown Pottsville Monday afternoon at a protest against State Sen. Dave Argall’s support of a forensic audit of the 2020 election in Pennsylvania.
Schuylkill Indivisible, a local liberal activist group, organized the protest outside Argall’s office on N. Centre St. They were met by a group of counter-protesters, mostly from a group known as Berks County Patriots, based in Hamburg. Several local Republicans also joined in the protest.
The gathering was definitely more spirited than any of the public demonstrations we’ve seen over the past year in Schuylkill County. We spotted several face-to-face verbal confrontations within the hour-long sidewalk debate.
Both groups, by the way, stood literally side-by-side on the east side of the street, packing in front of Argall’s office and the flower shop next door. Some protesters also gathered at different street corners at the intersection of Centre and Market streets.
Despite the tension in the air Monday, nothing more than loud words and personal insults were exchanged between the sides. But both sides clearly came ready to rumble … metaphorically, of course.
Each side was properly bull-horned.
There was this guy, who clearly doesn’t trust the media ( … even when it’s kinda on his side) …
And Lisa Von Ahn, who was mic’d up for the left and Schuylkill Indivisible …
And they each brought signs, too.
When people drove by the protest, it was really hard to tell for whom their honks were supporting.
Some shouted as they drove by but none of the shouters really prepared remarks succinct enough to be heard while doing 20 past the protest spot.
And they brought their talking points, too.
We asked Claire Kempes, of Schuylkill Indivisible, what she thought of the boisterous counter-protest. Typically at one of the group’s protests, it’s just them demonstrating, no counter protesters are there, and you know who the honkers support.
“They have every right to protest,” Kempes said. “I just wish they would stop saying baseless information.”
Schuylkill Indivisible stance on the forensic audit of the 2020 election in Pennsylvania is that it’s a waste of money and there’ve already been two audits, they say. Kempes didn’t believe the people countering her group’s protest on Monday had all their facts straight.
“Many didn’t know who Bill Barr was,” she said. “There were several challenges. They were all dismissed because of lack of evidence.”
On the other side, Helen Macminn with Berks County Patriots, said there should be no harm in conducting another audit of the election. And her group and the Schuylkill Republicans on hand Monday support Argall’s stance on the issue and hopes he continues pressing forward.
“Why are they opposing,” she wondered. “If Biden won legitimately, then we’ll have to accept that.”
Macminn said the counter-protest rally was organized to “protest the vote” and that it’s not just about trying to overturn an election at this point. They, like many conservatives and Republicans, fear the irregularities of the 2020 election could happen again in another election.
“We have to straighten out the voter rolls and make sure the next election is not fraught with fraud,” she said.
Photos: Coal Region Canary
God
September 13, 2021 at 6:38 pm
Regardless of what someone’s belief is about the election the only reason to attempt stopping any audit, for anything, is if there’s fear the audit will expose wrong doing or mistakes. That’s what an audit is for, to insure accuracy. It makes zero sense for anyone to be apposing an election audit. If they believe the results are true there’s no reason to object to an audit: “Not going to find anything. Audit all you want. Here’s all the files and stuff you need. Have at it.” Would be the response if there wasn’t anything to hide.
Just sayin
September 13, 2021 at 11:04 pm
Well then you finance it. It’s been done, no fraud. Why keep on other than being sore losers, really now?
PTFloridians
September 14, 2021 at 9:18 am
Do you have any problems financing healthcare for illegals, abortions for irresponsible women, phones, money and hotels for the poor and homeless, funding proxy wars in other parts of the world…and so on, and so on…?
Free and fair elections should be paramount, no matter what the cost, here in America, no matter your party affiliation. There was fraud all over the country, especially in “red” states like PA. Whether or not the election is overturned, we, as Americans, need to get to the bottom of it, so we can trust our voting system again.
Fukliberals
September 14, 2021 at 7:51 am
BIDEN IS A USUPER !! HE IS A DEMOCRAT STOOGE ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE DEMONICRAT PARTY !! AUDIT THEM ALL !! LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER !!
America First
September 14, 2021 at 8:00 am
I agree with God, if you have nothing to hide, you don’t need to fear an audit. Seems DEMONCRATS fear anything that might expose wrongdoing. They don’t want voters to have to show ID to vote. You need ID to buy alcohol, drive, cash a check, so yeah, show your ID when you vote. Only reason they want to stop that is so all the illegal voters they have on their scrolls can keep on voting.
Truth Matters
September 14, 2021 at 1:21 pm
Evidence needed to back-up claims of gross irregularities. Several court cases have been heard and dismissed for lack of evidence! There simply is no justification for spending time & money on this farce. We aren’t worried about the outcome it’s been resolved multiple times. Stop casting doubt on our election process. it is solid! Wake up! This is manipulation by a con-man and those hitching their wagon to him for personal political gain. It’s a lie! Any lawyer or politician pushing this lie should be prosecuted! Demand evidence!
PTFloridians
September 14, 2021 at 8:29 pm
Did you feel that strongly about the two farce impeachment circuses, if truth matters so much?… evidence huh…guess you were all about that tho…truth matters only if it benefits you or your allegiance to a party/person I guess, since it’s obvious you dislike/hate President Trump.
insider
September 14, 2021 at 11:45 pm
Any audit should come out of the re-election funds of the people calling for the audit.Not taxpayer money.Problem solved.
PTFloridians
September 15, 2021 at 8:55 pm
The AZ audit was completely funded by 5 Conservative groups, not taxpayers funding…
Is this another attempt to perpetuate a false narrative…a.k.a. fake news?
But, I guess you don’t mind your taxpayer dollars and your Social Security contributions to financing healthcare for illegals, abortions for irresponsible women, phones, money and hotels for the poor and homeless, funding proxy wars in other parts of the world…and so on, and so on…?
insider
September 16, 2021 at 2:43 pm
Rambling Rose….a narrative….?????You embody narratives in every one of your posts….I simply made a suggestion…..🙄
PTFloridians
September 17, 2021 at 8:03 am
So then, how DO you feel about taxpayer dollars being spent recklessly, on those other issues…?…or don’t they matter to you
PTFloridians
September 19, 2021 at 5:50 pm
All good Liberals resort to name-calling and personal attacks when rationale and thought provoking dialogue is exhausted…oh well.
insider
September 21, 2021 at 10:13 am
Fragile ego?????You can’t be my friend anymore….😂
PTFloridians
September 21, 2021 at 9:44 pm
What a low IQ loser. Try to think and challenge yourself and others to provoke thought and rational dialogue…what a shame.
insider
September 23, 2021 at 11:25 am
Congratulations…. No name calling….so honorable..phony…🙄
PTFloridians
September 14, 2021 at 9:07 pm
Fool.
RB
September 15, 2021 at 8:27 am
There were no forensic audits in PA, despite what some commenters are saying. Also, courts didn’t “reject” on “lack of evidence”. Some courts didn’t hear cases, claiming plaintiffs had no standing. They didn’t even hear the evidence in many cases. And…you have to do the audit to get the evidence! Bottom line is the left is scared to death of a “real” audit…not B.S. “risk limiting” audits, but real forensic audits. They’re obviously scared enough to protest outside of Argall’s office. Funny how the big-government leftists are now worried about taxpayer money. Laughable. Also laughable how the leftist hold signs accusing the other side of being “fascists” while their side mandates what people need to do with their bodies, support lockdowns, shut down businesses, and force people to wear useless masks because they’ve been purposely overwhelmed with fear by the government and media they think are telling the the truth. They support total government control over your life, while those they protest want smaller, less restrictive government, more freedom, and lower taxes. Saul Alinsky’s rule of blaming the other side of what they themselves do. Their #1 tool.
Not me
September 17, 2021 at 8:57 pm
It could cost pa upwards of 40 million, who is going to pay that ????
Canary Commenter
September 17, 2021 at 11:48 pm
A good argument could be made that it’s money better spent on an audit and not all the other crap we waste money on in PA.
Ryles
September 20, 2021 at 5:18 pm
With the last 4 of your SSN + DL# going to a 3rd party audit firm…….the conspiracy theorists pick & choose their convenient conspiracies.
PTFloridians
September 21, 2021 at 8:40 am
The last 4 go to everything else under the Sun…why do you find that troubling?
And, why is the act of rooting out voting discrepancies, abnormalities and cheating, a “conspiracy theory”?
Truth Matters
September 20, 2021 at 5:57 pm
Ugh! This invasion of privacy from the party of “Don’t take away my freedom!” It’s just a tad hypocritical…
insider
September 24, 2021 at 9:47 am
Arizona audit shows Biden beat Trump…audit the audit?????