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A group of about 10 demonstrators gathered outside the Pottsville office of State Sen. Dave Argall and Reps. Tim Twardzik and Joe Kerwin on Saturday to protest newly introduced abortion legislation in the Pennsylvania General Assembly.

The group held some rather descriptive signs to express their feelings about the bills and the local support for them from the legislators, including State Rep. Jerry Knowles. Some read:

  • Help! There are Congressmen in my (uterus).
  • Keep your votes away from my vagina.
  • We need to talk about the elephant in the womb!
  • Regulate impotence – Your limp d*** is God’s will.

Some of the signs featured wire coat hangers to signify the dangers of abortions not done by physicians.

The demonstration was organized by the Schuylkill County Democrat Women’s League and was attended by many of the same women who’ve been at protests in front of Schuylkill County Courthouse against Commissioner George Halcovage and Sheriff candidate Doug Litwhiler.

While those protests have been rather tame, Saturday’s was … interesting, at least for a few minutes. While many people honked as they drove by, some hecklers chastised the women for their message. One man yelled, “You’re all going to Hell,” as he drove by.

And with their attention diverted on another occasion, a young kid sneaked up behind the protestors and swiped one of their signs. A few of the demonstrators were somehow able to track down the scamp that stole the sign and the boy’s mother brought it back. However, she had some choice words for the protestors, scolding them for allegedly taking photos of the suspected pilferer.

At some point, someone called someone a Karen.

The mother said her kid took the sign because he and his friends thought it was funny that one of the signs had the word ‘vagina’ on it.

“Because he’s 13,” the mother said, answering why he’d think that word was funny.

Schuylkill County Democrats Protest Against Recent Pennsylvania Abortion Legislation

Outside of the theatrics, the purpose of the protest in Pottsville on Saturday was to voice disapproval with recent abortion legislation either passed by or making its way to the floor of the State House of Representatives.

The include House Bills 904, 118, and 1500.

None ban abortion outright but one of the main organizers of Saturday’s demonstration, Lisa Nagele Hollenbach, say they make getting an abortion more difficult and more dangerous.

“These bills are dangerous for women,” she says. “Abortions have always happened and they always will happen. If women want an abortion, they will find a way to have one.”

Pennsylvania House Bill 904 – Fetal Heartbeat Bill

HB 904, more commonly referred to as the Fetal Heartbeat Bill, would make abortion illegal after the presence of a fetal heartbeat is discovered by a doctor. Locally, Knowles is a co-sponsor of this legislation. It passed the Health Committee by a 15-10 vote along partisan lines. Twardzik, a member of that committee, voted in favor.

It requires a doctor to perform a fetal heartbeat exam to determine its presence or not.

“The physician shall utilize the physician’s best clinical judgement to determine whether or not a fetal heartbeat is present,” the bill reads.

There are exceptions under HB 904 that allow an abortion even if a fetal heartbeat is discovered. Specifically, a physician would have to determine that an abortion is “necessary” to work around the Fetal Heartbeat Bill.

Hollenbach says the Fetal Heartbeat Bill makes abortion illegal after 6 weeks of pregnancy. She says that many women don’t know they’re pregnant at that point.

“Clearly, men are designing this legislation because they don’t know that simple fact,” she says. “They are extremists and they’ve gone too far.”

Here’s a look at the full text of House Bill 904:

Pennsylvania House Bill 904 – The Fetal Heartbeat Bill

 

Pennsylvania House Bill 1500 – Down Syndrome Abortion Bill

HB 1500 would make it that someone can not seek an abortion solely because the fetus has been diagnosed with Down Syndrome.

Kerwin, Knowles, and Twardzik were co-sponsors of this bill.  It passed the House on June 8 by a 120-83 margin with some bipartisan support.

“On its face, it may sound like a positive thing, but what we also know is that these legislators are not doing anything. The parents are saying ‘I don’t have the capacity to take care of this special needs child. But they’re not doing anything in terms of community programs, in resistance or help once they have a child that they’ve told you outright that they can not take care of,” Hollenbach says as a counter to the bill.

Here’s a look at the full text of House Bill 1500:

Pennsylvania Down Syndrome Abortion bill

 

Pennsylvania House Bill 118 – Final Disposition of Fetal Remains Act or Unborn Child Dignity Bill

Prior to passage of HB 118, which prime sponsor Rep. Frank Ryan of Lebanon County titled the Unborn Child Dignity Bill, there was a heated debate on what it actually does.

Ryan released a statement and the bill was later amended to clarify that HB 118 does not require women who miscarry or suffer an ectopic pregnancy to fill out a fetal death certificate. He says it simply allows those parents to claim the child’s remains for “a proper cremation or burial at their own expense.”

He accused Democrats for advancing a narrative about the bill that simply wasn’t true. He called out Montgomery County Commissioner Val Arkoosh for spreading the lie that HB 118 would fine women who suffer a miscarriage and require them to fill out a fetal death certificate.

In a statement released on June 4, Ryan said, “It is sad that a public figure, let alone a physician, would mischaracterize my bill in this manner and mislead the public about its purpose. House Bill 118, which is similar to an Indiana law deemed constitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court, would give grieving parents a choice. It does not require them to act, and it certainly does not require action that would further traumatize them. To say that it does is deeply troubling.”

After reading the text of the bill, it actually only requires a parents of the unborn child to pay for final disposition of the fetal remains if they select a location other than one “that is usual and customary for a health care facility.”

Otherwise, it’s on the health care facility to:

  • Provide for the final disposition of the unborn child;
  • Cremate or inter the fetal remains;

Knowles and Kerwin are co-sponsors of this legislation. It passed the House by a 118-83 vote back on June 9 with all 3 local legislators voting in favor of it. It, too, got some bipartisan support.

Here’s a look at the full text of House Bill 118:

Pennsylvania House Bill 118 – Final Disposition of Fetal Remains Act

Protest Demands More Community Education

Hollenbach says it’s unlikely that these bills become law because Gov. Tom Wolf has promised to veto them, which he has.

In addition to being against the bills as they’re written, the argument of the protestors on Saturday is what legislators in Harrisburg are not doing.

“They’re not increasing access to birth control or education for people to be proactive about unwanted pregnancies,” Hollenbach says. “They call themselves pro-life but what they really are is anti-choice and pro-birth. Once the fetus comes out as a real person, they don’t care anymore.

“Abortion exists as an important healthcare right and choice for women. I may not choose to do that for myself but I have no right to tell another woman what’s best for her and her life situation,” she adds. “These folks aren’t doing the legislation for preventative care and they don’t have any legislation that regulates a man’s body. It’s all posturing to a base and it’s shameful.”

During our conversation Saturday, Hollenbach suggested one way to regulate men would be to advocate for reversible vasectomies.

She says, “Why don’t we require the male, who is never mentioned in any of this legislation – as if their contribution isn’t important to bringing life into the world – why not the male has to pay mandatory child support from the minute there’s a heartbeat until the child graduates from college?”

 

 

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36 responses to Locals Protest Recent Abortion Bills in Pennsylvania House

  1. Fukliberals June 14th, 2021 at 7:31 am

    Keep Abortion Legal, ABORT ALL COMMIE DEMOCRATS SINCE THEY LIKE IT SO MUCH !!.

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  2. Jmjtusa June 14th, 2021 at 3:43 pm

    Geeshe looks like the halcovage protestors found new signs & a new perch…

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  3. Patty Swayze June 15th, 2021 at 10:11 am

    They can give each other abortions if they like it so much, maybe they can go up to the prison, and get some men to knock them up. Yuk

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  4. PTFloridians June 15th, 2021 at 4:33 pm

    Many women “choose” to be sperm banks for a number of reasons (that’s one choice), THEN want to “choose” to extinguish (murder) THAT choice (second choice)…
    …THEN, classify it as “healthcare” with the help of our schmendrick Governor and other red-state and media puppets…amazing…
    …whatta’ bunch of irresponsible, brainless fools.

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  5. Sick of socialist snowflakes June 15th, 2021 at 9:21 pm

    These pro abortion people are pathetic. Then again, they are all Demorats, I mean Democrats, so they make it one of their favorite past times to murder innnocent babies. How would all these people feel if their parents aborted them? Stuff like this makes me despise socialist liberals more and more every day.

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    • insider June 16th, 2021 at 1:00 pm

      If the totally”pro life”people believe that terminating any pregnancy is murder..how do they then often say”except in cases of rape,incest or the life of the mother”???Just trying to understand the viewpoint.. Wouldn’t all of those be”murder”by their definition?Thanks for any thoughtful responses.

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      • Frank June 17th, 2021 at 8:39 am

        If abortions were limited to cases of rape, incest or to save the life of the mother, it would eliminate about 99% of abortions. Imagine how many babies would be saved.

        What I don’t get are people who are against the death penalty but are for Abortion on Demand. Save the life of a convicted murderer but not the life of an innocent baby.

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        • insider June 17th, 2021 at 9:08 pm

          Are all abortions murder????Yes or no….answer the question…this is not about percentages….nice try…

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          • PTFloridians June 17th, 2021 at 10:14 pm

            All abortions are murder…there are no “excepts”…it’s just a bargaining tool used by politicians to keep the waters muddied.
            …excellent point…but the only absolutist morons are those fools holding poorly designed, vulgar, and politically charged signs to represent their careless, uneducated and irresponsible choices.
            …what a poor example for young women struggling with morality and wise choices in todays world.

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          • insider June 20th, 2021 at 11:12 am

            Agree on the senseless signs.There are many,including me,who are pro choice who do not endorse abortion as birth control.Necessary abortion saved my daughter’s life.Alive and well now expecting again.Very personal for me.

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          • Frank June 18th, 2021 at 12:23 pm

            If you could eliminate 99 percent of murders, would you? Or would you just let them all die to prove prove some idiotic point?

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          • insider June 18th, 2021 at 3:16 pm

            Some terminations of pregnancies are necessary…not an idiotic point…but a life saving procedure…people who are pro choice support that option…it does not make them in favor of all abortions…nice try to muddy the waters…politician or moron????

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          • PTFloridians June 19th, 2021 at 7:42 am

            The issues at hand is twofold, or more, but the main points are…
            1) the preservation of life, due to a CHOICE to get impregnated, or at the very least, take the risk of pregnancy, due to your actions
            2) the governments role in all these personal choices…it IS NOT the responsibility of government to provide birth control or abortions to women, under any circumstance…its simply NOT. Its the governments role to PROTECT and PRESERVE life, not take it, wantonly, because of choice that a woman makes and then regrets. It’s NOT the taxpayer’s responsibility to fund that, under the guise of “healthcare”…it’s NOT a “women’s right” to have government fund their promiscuity or poor choices…THAT’S the rub.
            …If any woman chooses, personally, to have an abortion, that’s her choice, but to suggest that others pay for it is maddening. The political left has hijacked this conundrum and shaped thought about responsibility (or lack thereof). Most people are thoughtful and caring about this issue, one way or the other, but it’s NOT the government’s responsibility to solve your problems, poor choices or risky behaviors. Your money, in your pocket, pays for your choices and consequences, not mine or someone else’s.

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          • insider June 20th, 2021 at 11:14 am

            Agreed.

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          • Frank June 20th, 2021 at 8:45 pm

            I have no idea why you don’t get it. You say “some terminations of pregnancies are necessary”. Really like less than 1% are to actually save the life of the mother. If you eliminate abortions except for incest, rape and for truly saving the life of the mother, you would eliminate 99% of abortions, which is scientifically terminating the life of the baby. It’s not muddying anything, just stating facts. Not sure what the moron comments are about.

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      • insider June 17th, 2021 at 9:04 pm

        No thoughtful answers????Absolute hypocrisity from absolutist morons.Thanks for playing…

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        • Frank June 18th, 2021 at 12:27 pm

          Eliminating 99 percent of murders is moronic?

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        • Fukliberals June 19th, 2021 at 10:26 pm

          Keep Abortion Legal !! ABORT ALL LIBERALS !! NOW AND RETROACTIVELY !!

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        • PTFloridians June 20th, 2021 at 7:49 am

          Your little narcissistic trap-game is over clown…thoughtful answers abound here…you and your ilk lose…always.

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          • insider June 20th, 2021 at 11:15 am

            Ilk??Very thoughtful.?

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          • insider June 20th, 2021 at 9:34 pm

            Dear sir..if you supported what men did their dicks ..I would find you credible….. Just saying…

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          • PTFloridians June 21st, 2021 at 2:49 am

            …and what, pray tell, might that be…
            Seems you’ve been flummoxed by the other points, so now you’ve switched gears…

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          • insider June 21st, 2021 at 12:36 pm

            Bait and switch is a fun game..😀

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          • PTFloridians June 23rd, 2021 at 9:28 am

            Soooo….what do they do…?

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    • Liberal Hater June 19th, 2021 at 10:22 pm

      Damn Right !! I hate Evil Liberal DemocRATS more and more too.

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    • insider June 23rd, 2021 at 9:36 am

      How would these people feel if their parents aborted them????really????Another thoughtful response.

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    • insider June 23rd, 2021 at 9:39 am

      How would they feel if they were aborted???Very thoughtful….

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  6. Libby Libtard June 17th, 2021 at 11:26 am

    These nutcases are obsessed with abortions, instead they should be promoting use of condoms, birth control, but then they would bitch about that too, protesting that condoms dont feel good, or birth control makes them gain weight.

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    • Canary Commenter June 17th, 2021 at 11:56 am

      Actually, if you read the full story, they do make a point of saying there should be more family planning awareness programs to prevent unwanted pregnancies. Don’t agree with their overall stance but they do make some fair points in that regard.

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      • Frank June 20th, 2021 at 8:47 pm

        Liberals aren’t exactly pro-family, unless it involves a gay couple. Probably contributes to why there are so many abortions.

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        • insider June 21st, 2021 at 10:54 am

          Wow.I apologize….Very thoughtful response from Frank….😂😂😂😂

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        • PTFloridians June 23rd, 2021 at 8:34 am

          And sadly, suicides…
          …the Leftist Liberal Death Cult is a cyclical pattern of unnatural and ignorant behaviors followed by remorse, regret and mental breakdown…abortion and suicide are two sad results of the Leftist/Progressive mindset. Life is a gift, but to them it’s a struggle and rabid fight, to defend and progress unnatural behaviors with zero consequence, until the struggle ends…sad…

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          • insider June 23rd, 2021 at 10:08 am

            Life is a gift…and a struggle…it affects all segments of society.There is no evidence that your governmental beliefs lead you to destructive decisions.

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          • PTFloridians June 23rd, 2021 at 9:44 pm

            Wat….?

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          • PTFloridians July 4th, 2021 at 9:52 pm

            Soooo, if you tie abortions to the government and craft laws and funding through the government…
            …government beliefs lead you to destructive decisions

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          • PTFloridians July 5th, 2021 at 8:21 am

            …and btw, insidher, please share with us what men do with their richards…?…you’ve evaded us with that doozie all along…

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